disequilibrium1 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 Here's a new podcast around a New York psychiatrist who engaged in major financial and emotional exploitation of his client for 29 years.https://www.bloomberg.com/features/the-shrink-next-door/ Though my abuse was nowhere near this extreme, I can recognize the dangers now in surrendering to "the expert." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sula Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 Thanks for this--just started listening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disequilibrium1 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 It seems an East Coast variation of singer Brian Wilson’s experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sula Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, disequilibrium1 said: It seems an East Coast variation of singer Brian Wilson’s experience. Don't know that? The production of it reminds me of a This American Life. I'm on the last one available. Darn. Gonna have to wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disequilibrium1 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 I feel the same way. He’s done this to others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sula Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 I guess so!! To be continued... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eve B Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 Podcast only? How many total episodes? There seems to be plenty of material to write an in-depth book (for the psychological horror genre), too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disequilibrium1 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) Eve I agree. I wonder if the authors are angling for that. It’s also interesting that Marty extricated himself before the journalist really was involved. Edited May 27, 2019 by disequilibrium1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disequilibrium1 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 Oh, I see the clue of what foiled the plot. " Why, two years later, had the lawyer become cautious? The lawyer had been visited by another patient of Herschkopf’s, who had also changed her will to benefit his family." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sula Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Dis--new episode went up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disequilibrium1 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Thanks. I'll listen when I'm settled and can give its due. Can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary S Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 The comment about how ethical standards in the 1980's weren't what they are today really hit home -- since I first tried therapy in the 80's. The first two had no informed consent form at all; the third had something that only covered fees, lengths of appointments, and policies on cancelling appointments. I guess it might have been possible to encounter things even worse than I did encounter. It really was caveat emptor back then. (But I can't really say what it's like now, since I haven't tried therapy in a dozen or so years.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvester McMonkey McBean Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Mary S said: The comment about how ethical standards in the 1980's weren't what they are today really hit home i'm thinking the same thing. it reminds me of a conversation that ex-T was sharing with hubby and me about his supervisor (now his ex-super, but was his super all the years i was seeing ex-T). ex-T's super was from that 80's psychoT generation and shared that back in those days no one even batted an eye that the Ts were sleeping with the clients...my interpretation from that entire conversation we had was, yes, ex-Ts super was sleeping with some of his clients back then... now off to listen to the forth episode... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sula Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 New episode's up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary S Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 Just read the new episode. Herschkopf is such a psychopath! He really took advantage of Markowitz's vulnerability to being "led". He has no sense of shame, let alone consideration. Reminds me of the time I told my second worst therapist that I felt ashamed about something. She said she didn't know what I meant by shame. I tried to explain (but how do you explain what an emotion is?!?), and she leaned back, tossed her hands in the air, laughed, and said, "I have no idea what you're talking about!" "Therapy" so often made so little sense; I often couldn't figure out how what the therapists did was supposed to help me. It was bizarre; surreal at times. I'm amazed that I survived with at least some sense left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disequilibrium1 Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 As I listened to the psychiatrist’s justification for his exploitation, I wondered if he had the slightest shame or limits for how he treated his patients. Marty’s story is just one view of one iceberg. It’s horrifying to consider a larger picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disequilibrium1 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 One of Herschkopf's letter to the editor is archived here.http://nymag.com/nymag/letters/n_9706/ Ironically, it's about the corruption of celebrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary S Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 11:47 PM, disequilibrium1 said: One of Herschkopf's letter to the editor is archived here.http://nymag.com/nymag/letters/n_9706/ Ironically, it's about the corruption of celebrity. How ironic that Herschkopf's term "Situationally Acquired Grandiosity" describes him so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disequilibrium1 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 A fifth episode, which explains Marty's last straw, was posted Tuesday and the last in the series will be posted this coming Tuesday. I've watched the internet for consumer and professional discussions and have found nothing so far, save my own forum post. I shake my head that this hasn't prodded professionals to any conversation, at least that I could find in a search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eve B Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 The professionals are probably too fearful of how it could hurt their business to want to bring attention to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eve B Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 18 hours ago, Mary S said: How ironic that Herschkopf's term "Situationally Acquired Grandiosity" describes him so well. Yeah, it takes one to know one, and based on the podcast, Herschkopf is the expert SAG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disequilibrium1 Posted June 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 Article in the tabloid New York Post has a bit more information. Apparently Marty has an active complaint. https://nypost.com/2019/06/08/how-a-celebrity-shrink-allegedly-conned-himself-into-patients-wills/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary S Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Thanks for the NY Post link. A quote from the second-to-last line of the link really resonates with me: "“He was all about power and greed." My worst therapist seemed to be "all about power and control." That was bad enough, really hard to get past. It seems fair to call her a psychological predator, but Herschkopf is an even greater predator -- financially as well as psychologically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disequilibrium1 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 I stand corrected. A link was posted several days ago on the r/therapists Reddit, but it generated scant discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disequilibrium1 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 The six and final episode has been posted, though there is the promise of more in reaction to the series. Rolling Stone just published a story about the podcast.https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/shrink-next-door-new-podcast-psychiatry-wondery-846474/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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